One of the main topics in the comment sections of my bird photography videos has been why I almost always shoot stopped down to F8 when I have a big and expensive F4 lens. So I made this bird photography video to show you exactly why and why you might want to consider it as well for your bird photography!
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47 responses to “Don't just shoot wide open! Here's Why – Bird Photography Secrets Revealed”
How about Gunner for the blue birds name .. Since your always shooting him..lol
Great video Jan, loads of good info.
Great video Jan!
This simple tip has improved my photos instantly! Thank you.
Way to big of a rig
If you are trying to separate a bird from a busy background; such as the bird is in a bush, you need wide aperture to soften everything not-bird. But you lose depth of field (the whole point of this technique). Focus stacking to the rescue but there's quite a bit of luck, and some skill, involved in focus stacking. Several photos in rapid succession adjusting focus. Sometimes I'll just put the camera in fast continuous and manually focus through the sharp point while shooting photos. Then combine the sharp bits together in post-processing. It helps if you are using an internal-focus lens that does not change focal length when focusing.
A closeup examination of the images would show why not to shoot at f16 at ISO 3200 or higher: Noise! Cameras vary widely in susceptibility to noise. Full frame sensors almost always have considerably less noise for any particular ISO as compared to APS-C or smaller sensors (cellphone!). But even at full frame considerable variation exists; my Nikon D850 sensor seems to have only about half the noise as my D800; which means I can shoot at twice the ISO and still have acceptable quality. Where it matters is of course the size of the finished product. On a web page we see no difference at all up to ISO 1600; but it will show up if you print large or crop tight.
Name the bluebird f-stop.
Agree completly.
helped me so much
great info and a sage cure for my wide-open fixation πππ
Sehr gut, dankeschΓΆn.
Wouldn't that flash scare the birds?
Thank you for the video, very helpful information
You changed the f-stop but you also changed the ISO, next video show the difference with changing the f-stop but keeping the iso the same.
Great video ! what make is the 'snood' on the flash please and does it give more reach or just defuse ?
See you are using flash , as higher shutter speeds. Would love to learn how to do this, are you using high speed sync?
Hi Jan, from the gloomy UK. I follow your outstanding tutorials, they are simply the best. One I eagerly await is the one using flash, is this tutorial still in the pipeline. Best Regards Tom
Thank you! That was really helpful. Does this rule of thumb apply to all lenses? I have the Sony 200-600 5.6 to 6.3.
Would the flash really be that beneficial at the distance your perch example was set up? Iβd be interested to see examples with and without flash. Max min Distance etc. how to adjust flash after ambient exposure etc
Why would u spend $10000 on a lens if u don't shoot at the wider aperture …
Actually, the need to have these super-fast telephoto lenses is non existent with the advent of digital cameras. Simply double your ISO and use a slower, better quality lens. The higher ISO has a degradation on the image, obviously. But so does using a fast telephoto lens. And they are both comparable. So which would you rather do? Spend a few extra thousand on a big-ass lens (unless, of course, you're a show-off) or simply dial in a high ISO? However, I do enjoy the camouflage on the lens…..just in case the Russians are around the corner. LOL
@Jan Wegener Just found your Channel, very informative! Looking forward to more, keep up the good work! π
Lovely video Jan! This will help us to come out of the myth to use wide open when shooting wildlife to gain over shutter speed and bokehlicious background. But then we compromise on the main bird itself to get it in reasonable depth of field.
Thanks for this video. Will be helpful if you can do a video on use of flash in bird photography.
Hey Jan great video, is that a battery pack just above the lens to power the flash if so what is it?
I saw you use flash, I would like you to explain to us how to use flash in bird photos. By Rudimar from Brasil.
Just found your video, excellent explanation and use of examples
It's odd that you didn't mention distance from the subject, which has a direct impact on depth of field.
This is such an underrated tip, so many of us come to the conclusion that longer telephoto lenses with wider maximum aperture = better in all scenarios. While there are absolutely scenarios/situations where F/4 or F/2.8 might be great, F/8 really is one of the best "fair weather" apertures to aim for with small subjects. Not only that, but if you have a zoom lens, chances are that wide-open is not the sharpest aperture available, with F/8 usually being the sweet-spot for sharpness.
a good reminder.
What Beamer is that your using with amazing affect ?
What about diffraction at f/11? Cameras with high MP tend to hit diffraction earlier than lower mp cameras. Myself, if I shoot wide-open depends on the background, lens and subject. If I have a busy background, then I'll shoot wide-open in order to blur the area behind the bird, unless the bird is of sufficient distance away from the background.
good info
This is great information. Thanks so much.
Great video. There was nothing that came a surprise to me but the way you put it over really reinforced the thought process. Great images too. Cheers Keith
Many Thanks for sharing with us all your advices.
4.31 crow photobomb! anyway, great video, matey!
great video subscribed
Sometimes you just need someone to point out what you already know. I have a Canon 500/4 and shoot wide open all the time, often with a 1.4x TC too.
I need to get a better beamer too, to substitute for the lack of light here in UK, which is primarily the reason for shooting wide open.
I need to update my body also, an original 7D it's soooooooooo noisy βΉ
Great video.
Well explained, thanks…
Great tip Jan. most of the time I don't go beyond f 7.1 with my Nikkor 200-500 with Nikon D500 to keep my shutter speed decent enough for the action (I usually starts at around 1/500 S) and possibly keep my ISO as low as possible for the given situation.
I totally agree
Great! One comment: dof depends on the distance to the subject
Really enjoyed this…& learnt something too!
Good tips, I shoot a lot of birds .
Great tips. F8 or Sharpy for name of the bird.
I'd recommend playing around with Photopills DoF calculator, for example it gives a 500mm f4 at 10m a DoF of just 9cm, F8 18cm and f11 26cm.